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New Jersey Devils at Toronto Maple Leafs

NHLJanuary 16, 2025Scotiabank Arena

DevilsNew JerseyNJ

Devils 3, Maple Leafs 4

Final/OT
Maple LeafsTorontoTORWon

Scoring

Play-by-play

In order

1st

  1. 0:00Start of 1st Period
  2. 0:00Nico Hischier faceoff won against Max Domi
  3. 0:31Philippe Myers hit Dawson Mercer
  4. 0:54Philippe Myers hit Dawson Mercer
  5. 1:17Brett Pesce Slap Shot Wide Left
  6. 1:24Icing
  7. 1:24Jack Hughes faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  8. 1:27Brett Pesce Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  9. 1:40Icing
  10. 1:40Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  11. 1:43Dawson Mercer shot blocked by Jake McCabe
  12. 1:55Giveaway by Dougie Hamilton
  13. 1:55Matthew Knies hit Dougie Hamilton
  14. 2:09Brenden Dillon Slap Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  15. 2:11Goalie Stopped
  16. 2:11Jack Hughes faceoff won against David Kampf
  17. 2:17Takeaway by Johnathan Kovacevic
  18. 2:21Jack Hughes Goal (18) Backhand, assists: Johnathan Kovacevic (12)
  19. 2:21Justin Dowling faceoff won against Max Domi
  20. 2:32Johnathan Kovacevic Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  21. 2:40William Nylander hit Jonas Siegenthaler
  22. 2:50Paul Cotter hit Max Domi
  23. 3:37Pontus Holmberg Tip-In Wide Right
  24. 4:03Morgan Rielly shot blocked by Nathan Bastian
  25. 4:26Auston Matthews Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  26. 4:27Matthew Knies shot blocked by Brenden Dillon
  27. 4:40Giveaway by Brenden Dillon
  28. 4:47Dougie Hamilton hit Matthew Knies
  29. 5:04Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  30. 5:07Goalie Stopped
  31. 5:07Max Domi faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  32. 5:09William Nylander Wrist Shot Wide Right
  33. 5:12Puck Frozen - Goalie
  34. 5:12William Nylander faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  35. 5:15Jake McCabe Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  36. 5:22Giveaway by Jack Hughes
  37. 5:34Giveaway by Max Domi
  38. 5:56Bobby McMann hit Jonas Siegenthaler
  39. 6:03Off-side
  40. 6:03David Kampf faceoff won against Justin Dowling
  41. 6:09Puck in Benches
  42. 6:09Justin Dowling faceoff won against David Kampf
  43. 6:41Giveaway by David Kampf
  44. 6:46David Kampf Deflected saved by Jacob Markstrom
  45. 6:49Goalie Stopped
  46. 6:49Nico Hischier faceoff won against Pontus Holmberg
  47. 7:00Off-side
  48. 7:00Pontus Holmberg faceoff won against Curtis Lazar
  49. 7:09Morgan Rielly shot blocked by Nathan Bastian
  50. 7:11Puck in Netting
  51. 7:11Curtis Lazar faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  52. 7:19Auston Matthews shot blocked by Ondrej Palat
  53. 7:34Hand Pass
  54. 7:34Auston Matthews faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  55. 7:41Puck in Crowd
  56. 7:41Auston Matthews faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  57. 7:54Matthew Knies hit Luke Hughes
  58. 7:56Mitch Marner hit Brett Pesce
  59. 8:02Ondrej Palat Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  60. 8:05Goalie Stopped
  61. 8:05Max Domi faceoff won against Justin Dowling
  62. 8:13Off-side
  63. 8:13Max Domi faceoff won against Justin Dowling
  64. 8:25Paul Cotter hit Conor Timmins
  65. 8:31Brett Pesce Slap Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  66. 9:27Giveaway by Jesper Bratt
  67. 10:01Max Pacioretty hit Timo Meier
  68. 10:02Giveaway by Timo Meier
  69. 10:16Philippe Myers shot blocked by Timo Meier
  70. 10:19Max Pacioretty hit Timo Meier
  71. 10:28Nicholas Robertson Wrist Shot High and Wide Right
  72. 10:30Puck in Netting
  73. 10:30Max Domi faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  74. 10:35Conor Timmins Slap Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  75. 10:37Goalie Stopped
  76. 10:37William Nylander faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  77. 10:42Conor Timmins Wrist Shot High and Wide Right
  78. 10:44Puck Frozen - Goalie
  79. 10:44Nico Hischier faceoff won against William Nylander
  80. 11:06Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  81. 11:22Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wrist Shot Wide Left
  82. 11:32Dawson Mercer shot blocked by Jake McCabe
  83. 11:51Brett Pesce shot blocked by Matthew Knies
  84. 12:15Morgan Rielly shot blocked by Brett Pesce
  85. 12:54Morgan Rielly Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  86. 13:33Off-side
  87. 13:33Pontus Holmberg faceoff won against Justin Dowling
  88. 14:03Paul Cotter Tripping against Pontus Holmberg
  89. 14:03TV Timeout
  90. 14:03Auston Matthews faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  91. 14:18Nico Hischier Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  92. 14:23Mitch Marner Hooking against Nico Hischier
  93. 14:23Auston Matthews faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  94. 14:55Luke Hughes Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  95. 14:58Goalie Stopped
  96. 14:58Nico Hischier faceoff won against Max Domi
  97. 15:23Jonas Siegenthaler hit Morgan Rielly
  98. 16:02Dougie Hamilton shot blocked by Pontus Holmberg
  99. 16:03Jack Hughes Wrist Shot Failed Bank Attempt
  100. 16:03Dougie Hamilton Tip-In Wide Right
  101. 16:42Mitch Marner hit Brett Pesce
  102. 16:45Takeaway by Oliver Ekman-Larsson
  103. 17:16Takeaway by Connor Dewar
  104. 17:16Steven Lorentz hit Dougie Hamilton
  105. 17:18Morgan Rielly shot blocked by Justin Dowling
  106. 17:23Giveaway by Justin Dowling
  107. 17:24Nathan Bastian hit Philippe Myers
  108. 17:27Connor Dewar Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  109. 17:29Goalie Stopped
  110. 17:29Pontus Holmberg faceoff won against Justin Dowling
  111. 17:31Morgan Rielly Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  112. 17:33Goalie Stopped
  113. 17:33Nico Hischier faceoff won against Pontus Holmberg
  114. 17:50Puck in Crowd
  115. 17:50Max Pacioretty faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  116. 18:44Takeaway by Ondrej Palat
  117. 18:47Jesper Bratt shot blocked by Jake McCabe
  118. 19:17Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  119. 19:19Goalie Stopped
  120. 19:19Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  121. 19:32Giveaway by Jake McCabe
  122. 19:47Takeaway by Jake McCabe
  123. 20:00End of 1st Period

2nd

  1. 0:00Start of 2nd Period
  2. 0:00Max Domi faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  3. 0:26Nico Hischier shot blocked by Morgan Rielly
  4. 0:28Puck in Netting
  5. 0:28Auston Matthews faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  6. 0:42Mitch Marner hit Jonas Siegenthaler
  7. 0:43Giveaway by Jonas Siegenthaler
  8. 0:45Mitch Marner shot blocked by Jonas Siegenthaler
  9. 0:48Puck Frozen - Goalie
  10. 0:48Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  11. 1:04Giveaway by Mitch Marner
  12. 1:06Giveaway by Mitch Marner
  13. 1:37Nicholas Robertson Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  14. 1:48Pontus Holmberg Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  15. 2:10Brenden Dillon hit Max Pacioretty
  16. 2:14Giveaway by Ondrej Palat
  17. 2:14Max Pacioretty Tip-In saved by Jacob Markstrom
  18. 2:58Conor Timmins Wrist Shot Wide Right
  19. 3:18Giveaway by Max Domi
  20. 4:14Timo Meier shot blocked by Jake McCabe
  21. 4:16Puck in Netting
  22. 4:16Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  23. 4:20Giveaway by Brenden Dillon
  24. 4:30Morgan Rielly shot blocked by Brenden Dillon
  25. 4:33Philippe Myers shot blocked by Timo Meier
  26. 4:39Morgan Rielly Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  27. 4:45Matthew Knies hit Nico Hischier
  28. 4:50Icing
  29. 4:50Nico Hischier faceoff won against Pontus Holmberg
  30. 5:00Icing
  31. 5:00Jack Hughes faceoff won against Pontus Holmberg
  32. 5:25Icing
  33. 5:25Nico Hischier faceoff won against Pontus Holmberg
  34. 5:35Takeaway by Steven Lorentz
  35. 5:40Auston Matthews Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  36. 5:50Nico Hischier Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  37. 5:52Goalie Stopped
  38. 5:52Max Domi faceoff won against Paul Cotter
  39. 6:14William Nylander Goal (25) Wrist Shot, assists: Max Domi (13), Chris Tanev (13)
  40. 6:14Curtis Lazar faceoff won against David Kampf
  41. 6:20Philippe Myers hit Kurtis MacDermid
  42. 6:25Dougie Hamilton shot blocked by Steven Lorentz
  43. 6:26Steven Lorentz hit Dougie Hamilton
  44. 6:29Puck in Crowd
  45. 6:29David Kampf faceoff won against Nathan Bastian
  46. 6:40Conor Timmins hit Kurtis MacDermid
  47. 6:47Curtis Lazar hit Conor Timmins
  48. 6:51Timo Meier hit David Kampf
  49. 7:05Oliver Ekman-Larsson Tripping against Nico Hischier
  50. 7:05Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  51. 7:07Dawson Mercer Tip-In saved by Joseph Woll
  52. 7:40Jesper Bratt Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  53. 7:42Goalie Stopped
  54. 7:42David Kampf faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  55. 8:14Nico Hischier Goal (21) Wrist Shot, assists: Jesper Bratt (37), Jack Hughes (36)
  56. 8:14Curtis Lazar faceoff won against Max Domi
  57. 8:27Max Domi hit Nathan Bastian
  58. 9:24Conor Timmins Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  59. 9:33Brenden Dillon hit Conor Timmins
  60. 9:43Brenden Dillon hit Chris Tanev
  61. 9:57Matthew Knies Backhand saved by Jacob Markstrom
  62. 10:06Jake McCabe hit Nico Hischier
  63. 10:10Timo Meier hit Jake McCabe
  64. 10:21Philippe Myers shot blocked by Timo Meier
  65. 11:06Giveaway by Philippe Myers
  66. 11:19Jack Hughes Backhand saved by Joseph Woll
  67. 11:31Icing
  68. 11:31Max Domi faceoff won against Curtis Lazar
  69. 11:36Giveaway by Morgan Rielly
  70. 11:51Nathan Bastian shot blocked by Connor Dewar
  71. 11:53Puck in Netting
  72. 11:53Pontus Holmberg faceoff won against Paul Cotter
  73. 11:57Giveaway by Jake McCabe
  74. 12:04Paul Cotter hit Chris Tanev
  75. 12:15Giveaway by Chris Tanev
  76. 12:29Timo Meier Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  77. 12:31Puck in Netting
  78. 12:31Max Domi faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  79. 12:55Johnathan Kovacevic Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  80. 13:17Icing
  81. 13:17Jack Hughes faceoff won against Max Domi
  82. 13:30Ondrej Palat Wrist Shot Wide Left
  83. 13:47Giveaway by Jack Hughes
  84. 14:39Mitch Marner shot blocked by Timo Meier
  85. 14:41Puck in Netting
  86. 14:41Auston Matthews faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  87. 14:59Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  88. 15:08Matthew Knies Tip-In saved by Jacob Markstrom
  89. 15:10Goalie Stopped
  90. 15:10Curtis Lazar faceoff won against Max Domi
  91. 15:11Bobby McMann Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  92. 15:22Giveaway by Nathan Bastian
  93. 15:46Morgan Rielly Backhand Wide Left
  94. 15:51Giveaway by William Nylander
  95. 15:59Icing
  96. 15:59Auston Matthews faceoff won against Curtis Lazar
  97. 16:04Mitch Marner Wrist Shot Wide Left
  98. 16:16Mitch Marner shot blocked by Ondrej Palat
  99. 17:02Puck in Crowd
  100. 17:02Pontus Holmberg faceoff won against Justin Dowling
  101. 17:22Justin Dowling Snap Shot Wide Right
  102. 18:32Jake McCabe Slap Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  103. 18:34Goalie Stopped
  104. 18:34Auston Matthews faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  105. 18:47Net Dislodged Defensive Skater
  106. 18:47Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  107. 20:00End of 2nd Period

3rd

  1. 0:00Start of 3rd Period
  2. 0:00Nico Hischier faceoff won against William Nylander
  3. 0:13Icing
  4. 0:13Max Domi faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  5. 0:25Icing
  6. 0:25Jack Hughes faceoff won against Max Domi
  7. 0:27Luke Hughes shot blocked by Morgan Rielly
  8. 0:31Jack Hughes Tip-In saved by Joseph Woll
  9. 1:24Timo Meier Snap Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  10. 1:33Matthew Knies shot blocked by Johnathan Kovacevic
  11. 2:18Kurtis MacDermid hit Oliver Ekman-Larsson
  12. 2:37Kurtis MacDermid shot blocked by Nicholas Robertson
  13. 3:18Jack Hughes Wrist Shot Short
  14. 3:47Jake McCabe Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  15. 3:49Goalie Stopped
  16. 3:49Auston Matthews faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  17. 4:29Mitch Marner Slap Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  18. 4:38Giveaway by Matthew Knies
  19. 5:06Justin Dowling hit Max Domi
  20. 5:17Philippe Myers Slap Shot Wide Left
  21. 5:25Paul Cotter Tip-In Wide Right
  22. 6:01Nicholas Robertson Wrist Shot High and Wide Right
  23. 6:06Nicholas Robertson hit Luke Hughes
  24. 6:31Jake McCabe Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  25. 6:48Puck in Crowd
  26. 6:48Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  27. 6:59Giveaway by Oliver Ekman-Larsson
  28. 6:59Dawson Mercer shot blocked by Morgan Rielly
  29. 7:16Matthew Knies Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  30. 7:21Jonas Siegenthaler Tripping against Auston Matthews
  31. 7:21Auston Matthews faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  32. 7:24Mitch Marner Wrist Shot Wide Left
  33. 7:41William Nylander Snap Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  34. 7:43Auston Matthews Goal (16) Wrist Shot, assists: William Nylander (21), Bobby McMann (6)
  35. 7:43Jack Hughes faceoff won against Max Domi
  36. 7:53Bobby McMann hit Brett Pesce
  37. 8:18Oliver Ekman-Larsson Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  38. 8:20Goalie Stopped
  39. 8:20Pontus Holmberg faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  40. 8:34Oliver Ekman-Larsson Hooking against Dougie Hamilton
  41. 8:34Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  42. 8:45Dougie Hamilton shot blocked by Chris Tanev
  43. 8:47Nico Hischier Snap Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  44. 9:03Jesper Bratt Wrist Shot Wide Right
  45. 9:08Jack Hughes Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  46. 9:09Jack Hughes shot blocked by Jesper Bratt
  47. 9:31Dougie Hamilton shot blocked by Philippe Myers
  48. 9:42Timo Meier Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  49. 9:44Nico Hischier Goal (22) Wrist Shot, assists: Timo Meier (17), Jack Hughes (37)
  50. 9:44Curtis Lazar faceoff won against William Nylander
  51. 9:48Giveaway by Brett Pesce
  52. 9:50Giveaway by Jake McCabe
  53. 9:56Nathan Bastian Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  54. 10:00Curtis Lazar Tip-In Wide Left
  55. 10:09Giveaway by Ondrej Palat
  56. 10:24Oliver Ekman-Larsson shot blocked by Ondrej Palat
  57. 10:26Conor Timmins shot blocked by Ondrej Palat
  58. 10:31Conor Timmins Slap Shot Wide Right
  59. 11:00Max Pacioretty Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  60. 11:15Morgan Rielly Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  61. 11:21Giveaway by Dawson Mercer
  62. 11:21Nicholas Robertson Slap Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  63. 11:25Max Pacioretty hit Johnathan Kovacevic
  64. 11:43Philippe Myers hit Dawson Mercer
  65. 11:52Mitch Marner shot blocked by Nico Hischier
  66. 12:05Jake McCabe shot blocked by Dougie Hamilton
  67. 12:20Auston Matthews Slap Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  68. 12:24Mitch Marner hit Dawson Mercer
  69. 12:48Puck in Netting
  70. 12:48Nico Hischier faceoff won against William Nylander
  71. 12:54Max Domi shot blocked by Brett Pesce
  72. 12:56Puck in Netting
  73. 12:56William Nylander faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  74. 13:01Conor Timmins Backhand saved by Jacob Markstrom
  75. 13:08Giveaway by William Nylander
  76. 13:49Chris Tanev Slap Shot Wide Right
  77. 14:03Giveaway by Mitch Marner
  78. 14:12Jesper Bratt Backhand Wide Left
  79. 14:26Off-side
  80. 14:26Pontus Holmberg faceoff won against Curtis Lazar
  81. 14:37Puck in Crowd
  82. 14:37Paul Cotter faceoff won against Pontus Holmberg
  83. 15:02Icing
  84. 15:02Jack Hughes faceoff won against Pontus Holmberg
  85. 15:17Mitch Marner shot blocked by Dougie Hamilton
  86. 15:29Morgan Rielly Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  87. 15:36Matthew Knies hit Ondrej Palat
  88. 15:47Auston Matthews Goal (17) Wrist Shot, assists: Mitch Marner (47), Jake McCabe (11)
  89. 15:47William Nylander faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  90. 16:00Jake McCabe Wrist Shot Wide Left
  91. 16:42Mitch Marner shot blocked by Jonas Siegenthaler
  92. 16:56Morgan Rielly Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  93. 17:30William Nylander Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  94. 18:04Jack Hughes Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  95. 18:11Jack Hughes shot blocked by Jake McCabe
  96. 18:16Puck in Crowd
  97. 18:16Max Domi faceoff won against Jack Hughes
  98. 18:35Jake McCabe Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  99. 18:37Goalie Stopped
  100. 18:37Auston Matthews faceoff won against Nico Hischier
  101. 19:32Jake McCabe hit Jesper Bratt
  102. 19:45Giveaway by William Nylander
  103. 19:48Giveaway by Jonas Siegenthaler
  104. 19:51Morgan Rielly Wrist Shot saved by Jacob Markstrom
  105. 20:00End of 3rd Period

OT

  1. 0:00Start of Overtime
  2. 0:00Nico Hischier faceoff won against Auston Matthews
  3. 0:34Luke Hughes Snap Shot Hit Left Post
  4. 0:47Luke Hughes Wrist Shot saved by Joseph Woll
  5. 0:53Timo Meier shot blocked by Auston Matthews
  6. 1:10William Nylander Goal (26) Wrist Shot, assists: Mitch Marner (48), Jake McCabe (12)
  7. 1:10End of OT
  8. 1:10Game End

1st

  1. 2:21NJ 1, TOR 0Jack Hughes Goal (18) Backhand, assists: Johnathan Kovacevic (12)

2nd

  1. 6:14NJ 1, TOR 1William Nylander Goal (25) Wrist Shot, assists: Max Domi (13), Chris Tanev (13)
  2. 8:14NJ 2, TOR 1Nico Hischier Goal (21) Wrist Shot, assists: Jesper Bratt (37), Jack Hughes (36)

3rd

  1. 7:43NJ 2, TOR 2Auston Matthews Goal (16) Wrist Shot, assists: William Nylander (21), Bobby McMann (6)
  2. 9:44NJ 3, TOR 2Nico Hischier Goal (22) Wrist Shot, assists: Timo Meier (17), Jack Hughes (37)
  3. 15:47NJ 3, TOR 3Auston Matthews Goal (17) Wrist Shot, assists: Mitch Marner (47), Jake McCabe (11)

OT

  1. 1:10NJ 3, TOR 4William Nylander Goal (26) Wrist Shot, assists: Mitch Marner (48), Jake McCabe (12)

Game leaders

DevilsNew Jersey

Maple LeafsToronto

Box score

ForwardsGA+/-SOGHTBSPIMTOIFO%SFLFWGVPNSMTKSHFTYTDGESTOIPPTOISHTOI
Nico Hischier C20-2001021:0954.5515180000292218:082:190:42
Jack Hughes C121000022:0746.75872020281819:282:390:00
Curtis Lazar C000010011:2355.6045001016111:150:080:00
Dawson Mercer C000000023:050.01001000261020:341:490:42
Jesper Bratt LW010000019:300.01001020271517:112:190:00
Justin Dowling C00-1011010:0425.0062101014210:040:000:00
Kurtis MacDermid LW00001004:580.00000000904:580:000:00
Nathan Bastian RW000012010:310.0110100016210:310:000:00
Ondrej Palat LW001004018:150.01002011271018:150:000:00
Paul Cotter LW00-1030213:0933.30210110161012:490:200:00
Timo Meier RW01-2024019:310.03001000261418:520:390:00
Tomas Tatar LW00-100008:210.000000001338:210:000:00
DefenseGA+/-SOGHTBSPIMTOISFLFWGVPNSMTKFO%SHFTYTDGESTOIPPTOISHTOI
Brenden Dillon D00-1032014:1710020000.020213:350:000:42
Brett Pesce D000002022:1620010100.023121:560:200:00
Dougie Hamilton D00-1012017:5000010100.020515:192:310:00
Johnathan Kovacevic D01-1001021:1520000010.023120:330:000:42
Jonas Siegenthaler D000012220:5900021000.023220:590:000:00
Luke Hughes D000000022:2820000100.024322:170:110:00
GoaliesSAGASVSV%TOIPIMSOSESSVPPSVSHSVSOSAYTDG
Jacob Markstrom G41437.90261:1000361000

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